Classroom Talk
Winter 2002 Archive
Re: Dusting off the old hotseat again. Posted by Eddie on March 06, 2002 at 00:10:20:
In Reply to: Dusting off the old hotseat again. posted by John on March 04, 2002 at 18:11:42:
>The Believer will become anxious for approval about it, and the Rebel
will feel rejected.
If one is wanting feedback, must it always be under the guise of
approval or disapproval? Could it not just be under the desire for
communication and evaluation for the growth of understanding? Coach it
seems that you have taken that tact (as in simply having conversation)
with others at times around here? Where you were actually having a
conversation with them about these type things. Hummm, I kind-a get the
feeling I’m digging my own grave here, smiles.
>Jesus, Eddie! {This was a kind response and I received it as such, but
I am playing off of it as you had with your statement that had followed
this, by taking only part of my complete statement there.}
Yes, yes I was sure you knew who I had been loosely quoting and
referring to in my past hummm –say four or five post at least. But what
I am and have been so puzzled about is why you seem (to me anyway) to
have some sort of aversion to talking about some of these “principles”
I’ve repeatedly been bringing up. Thus my remarks about my
having “missed the mark”, and “possibly this is not the form for such
discussion”, and such? But receiving rather some quick snappy judgment
on my wanting approval, communication yes, probably even attentions yes
but not approval. As I have stated if this is not the proper form for
such conversations I fully understand and hold no frustration or
anxiety with this, that is with the exception that I would like to have
some one to bounce some of these ideas off of. I have had no feeling
for the need of any type of justice as with approval wanting feedback
that I can see. What I have sensed in me is the hope to know and learn
more and “be” more and understand more.
Our [[[communications]]] here make me think very deeply about what I
might “be” under circumstances such as these you’ve discussed about
anger. And what I had reflected on and responded with about anger had
been in a quite different vain than you had gone, and this is why I had
said I missed the mark. (A bit over dramatically I admit, and “Rebel
all the way.)
>(growing slightly angry with you here).
Is this as in growing as in you started out angry and it just kept
getting bigger? {Being a bit facetious here, and honestly only
teasing.} But this is exactly how I have felt “not” out of wanting
approval, but simply conversation and communication for more insight
and understanding. But wait maybe this is just my lowly level of being
wanting something for nothing i.e. quick and easy without “Real”
effort, as philosophic gibberish to pacify the cranial mind? As
Ouspensky might call it formatory. Is what you’re pointing to here that
there is always this seeking approval underneath it all
with “Believers” like me? Even when I’m not feeling or thinking this is
my motivation? Or can I honestly not be seeking approval while going in
an entirely different direction?
Eddie
ps i just saw you posted on your day off/ going to check it out now.
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